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Bassdog
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  15:29:35  Show Profile Send Bassdog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike. I received your Chordal Approach book and have started working on the first section. Good stuff. But what happens to me is I confuse easily and my head starts to spin. Not like in the Exorcist, but maybe you know what I mean. Maybe I just need to take baby steps with it in hopes of not getting overwhelmed with numbers and symbols and relationships and sub of subs, etc. I am determined to be a better bassist and musician in general and have been dedicated to Carol Kaye's Jazz Improv and basic theory stuff for a couple years now after playing, sort of, for 30yrs. Just made the jump to 5 string with an MTD Kingston Heir 5 Active. Great bass. Peace,
Bob

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Edited by - Bassdog on 09/28/2005 16:23:23

michaeldimin
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Posted - 09/29/2005 :  09:20:54  Show Profile  Visit michaeldimin's Homepage Send michaeldimin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bob,
2 things. 1. The book is more conceptual than exercise oriented and 2. the book develops each of the concepts in order. Take your time getting each concepts down. Realize that each concept is moveable to other keys, chord progressions and situations. Try using each concept in various situations. Hope this helps

Mike
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Bassdog
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Posted - 09/30/2005 :  11:28:17  Show Profile Send Bassdog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Mike!

Be Kind
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Bassdog
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Posted - 09/30/2005 :  20:29:25  Show Profile Send Bassdog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike. What is the difference between precede and approach? Thanks!!

Edited by - Bassdog on 10/01/2005 07:19:12
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 10/04/2005 :  07:46:24  Show Profile  Visit michaeldimin's Homepage Send michaeldimin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bassdog

Hi Mike. What is the difference between precede and approach? Thanks!!



An approach note has definitive resolution where a note that preccedes another note/chord does not neccessarily have that same definitive resolution. Does this help?

Mike
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Bassdog
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Posted - 10/04/2005 :  11:11:49  Show Profile Send Bassdog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm. Sorry but not really. Talking about chords and the first and second rules of reharmonization. "We can precede any Dom7 chord by its related IIm7" and "You can approach any chord by its dominant chord." How does precede vs approach in these two rules relate to "definitive resolution." Thanks!!!

Edited by - Bassdog on 10/05/2005 10:49:44
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 10/07/2005 :  12:11:00  Show Profile  Visit michaeldimin's Homepage Send michaeldimin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bassdog

Hmmm. Sorry but not really. Talking about chords and the first and second rules of reharmonization. "We can precede any Dom7 chord by its related IIm7" and "You can approach any chord by its dominant chord." How does precede vs approach in these two rules relate to "definitive resolution." Thanks!!!



I hate it when I get quoted and I'm not clear on my intentions . I think in this case the terms are interchangeable. The dominant 7th, however, has a strong resolution, first down a fifth and secondly down a half-step. In these instances, I think "approach" is an appropriate term as we are talking about a resolution or cadence. In the instance of the IIm7, that is more of a choice to put it there. The IIm7 does not have a strong resolution to the V7 (as there is no tritone). I hope this helps clear things up.

I appreciate you looking carefully at the text. With over 1,000 sold, you are the first to bring up this issue. It makes things clearer for future writings.

Peace
Mike
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Bassdog
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Posted - 10/07/2005 :  22:02:09  Show Profile Send Bassdog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So, any Dom7 chord can be preceded/approached by its related IIm7 chord and any chord can be approached/preceded by its dom chord. Is that right?
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 10/08/2005 :  05:12:53  Show Profile  Visit michaeldimin's Homepage Send michaeldimin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bassdog

So, any Dom7 chord can be preceded/approached by its related IIm7 chord and any chord can be approached/preceded by its dom chord. Is that right?


Yes! with the caveat that it must sound good. It is easy to take the reharmonization thing too far.

Mike
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Bassdog
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Posted - 10/08/2005 :  08:39:05  Show Profile Send Bassdog a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok. Since you used the two different terms, I thought they must means different things in this context. I couldn't really figure out what. Thanks for the help. I told you I confuse easily. This is the evidence. Maybe I over analyze, although I really try not to, just play. I think it is funny that I am the only one who has asked this question. Actually sort of surprises me. I am unique. BTW, I absolutely love my Kingston Heir 5 Active but the no fingerboard dots thing threw me a big curve and made playing it hard. I fashioned some stick on dots until I have my bass guy do an inlay for me. Right now, I don't want to be without my bass for the time it would take. Peace, Bob

Edited by - Bassdog on 10/08/2005 10:17:55
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ii-v
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Posted - 12/14/2005 :  11:42:38  Show Profile Send ii-v a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mike, I am a teacher in Salt Lake and would be interested in your book to determine whether to use it in my students' education. Most of what I teach is conceptual, some memorization of scales, but more emphasis on building scales (specifically complimenting chords and changes). Whenever I hear of a book that is conceptual in nature I get all worked up. If I could set up an order through our store I would like to do that. Do you have a distributor that sets that up or is it directly through you.
Thanks,
Russ

My basses are cooler than yours.
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 12/14/2005 :  17:13:12  Show Profile  Visit michaeldimin's Homepage Send michaeldimin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ii-v

Mike, I am a teacher in Salt Lake and would be interested in your book to determine whether to use it in my students' education. Most of what I teach is conceptual, some memorization of scales, but more emphasis on building scales (specifically complimenting chords and changes). Whenever I hear of a book that is conceptual in nature I get all worked up. If I could set up an order through our store I would like to do that. Do you have a distributor that sets that up or is it directly through you.
Thanks,
Russ

My basses are cooler than yours.



Russ,
thanks for the interest. I sent you an email

Peace
Mike
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