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Joe Q.
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 Posted - 03/25/2006 : 14:38:35
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Mike,
In my jazz trio I have been asked to solo. I usually fall flat on my face (just like the first time I took the training wheels off my bike when I was little). It's creates a lot of frustration. I find that I can do a fair job of soloing at home after I've "warmed up" to the piece. When I'm soloing in a live situation, the fingerboard becomes a blur and only the "wrong notes" seem to come through the speaker. For example, the first chord was D minor and I sat right on an F#... Geeez.
Today I sat down and worked on the changes to Autumn Leaves. I was looking for some patterns and things that I could hold on to so I can make it through a rehearsal in one piece. I found that the following seemed to work for me a little bit:
1st Bar: Am7 (used the CM7 arpeggio)
2nd Bar: D7 (used an F#m7b5 arpeggio)
3rd Bar: GM7 (used a Bm7 arpeggio)
4th Bar: CM7 (used an Em7 arpeggio)
This gave me a feeling of security and it sounded pretty good. Is there anything to this? In your experience, has this been identified as a solo technique in jazz?
During my first effort today I wrote down common pitches between the chords. There were letters all over the page. This turned out to be too much information to digest in real-time; however, using arpeggios over the changes seemed to work.
Am I on to something good here, or am I just putting the "training wheels" back on my bike?
Thanks,
Joe
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 03/25/2006 : 22:37:05
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Originally posted by Joe Q.
Mike,
In my jazz trio I have been asked to solo. I usually fall flat on my face (just like the first time I took the training wheels off my bike when I was little). It's creates a lot of frustration. I find that I can do a fair job of soloing at home after I've "warmed up" to the piece. When I'm soloing in a live situation, the fingerboard becomes a blur and only the "wrong notes" seem to come through the speaker. For example, the first chord was D minor and I sat right on an F#... Geeez.
Today I sat down and worked on the changes to Autumn Leaves. I was looking for some patterns and things that I could hold on to so I can make it through a rehearsal in one piece. I found that the following seemed to work for me a little bit:
1st Bar: Am7 (used the CM7 arpeggio)
2nd Bar: D7 (used an F#m7b5 arpeggio)
3rd Bar: GM7 (used a Bm7 arpeggio)
4th Bar: CM7 (used an Em7 arpeggio)
This gave me a feeling of security and it sounded pretty good. Is there anything to this? In your experience, has this been identified as a solo technique in jazz?
During my first effort today I wrote down common pitches between the chords. There were letters all over the page. This turned out to be too much information to digest in real-time; however, using arpeggios over the changes seemed to work.
Am I on to something good here, or am I just putting the "training wheels" back on my bike?
Thanks,
Joe
SOunds good to me - you probably realize that each of thoise chords are extensions of the original chords. The first one (CM7) is the Am7 with a 3rd below, the rest of the chords add a 3rd on top and omit the root. It's a nice way to play without quoting the root. Add in a sense of tonal centers, melodic phrases and your off |
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Joe Q.
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Posted - 03/26/2006 : 13:18:50
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Mike,
Yup, I did notice the extensions. I noticed today that a B-7b9 chord/arpeggio will work over the entire A Section. This is the kind of thing I like to hold on to in a rough situation.
Thanks for your reply Mike.
Joe
PS. What are you currently working on?
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 04/02/2006 : 10:34:01
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PS. What are you currently working on?
www.michaeldimin.com/blackorpheus.mp3
Big show coming up in June with Michael Manring at Revolution Hall in Troy, NY |
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Joe Q.
New Member
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2006 : 22:22:24
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Mike,
That sounds really hip. I really dig the precussive sounds. What are you plans for Black Orpheus? Are you going to expand it with solo material?
Cool, a show with Manring?! Is it going to be just you and him, or will there be other all-star bassists?
Joe
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 04/04/2006 : 22:05:49
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Originally posted by Joe Q.
Mike,
That sounds really hip. I really dig the precussive sounds. What are you plans for Black Orpheus? Are you going to expand it with solo material?
Cool, a show with Manring?! Is it going to be just you and him, or will there be other all-star bassists?
Joe
I'll probably add more to Black Orpheus - I'm not just sure what yet. The show is, so far, Manring, Myself and a Rochester based solo cat namedd Chuck Bianchi. There is one more person who is checking his schedule.
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Joe Q.
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 12:34:00
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That sounds really awesome man. I know of Chuck; however, I've never seen him play. I've listened to some sample from his website. Cool stuff.
Who is the other bassist that may join the performance? Is it a New Yorker?
I'm looking into the possibility of going to the June performance. I found out that the drive would be approximately 3 hours and 45 minutes. Maybe I could find some musicians in my neck of the woods that would like to take a little drive out to Troy.
Joe
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 17:18:30
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Originally posted by Joe Q.
That sounds really awesome man. I know of Chuck; however, I've never seen him play. I've listened to some sample from his website. Cool stuff.
Who is the other bassist that may join the performance? Is it a New Yorker?
I'm looking into the possibility of going to the June performance. I found out that the drive would be approximately 3 hours and 45 minutes. Maybe I could find some musicians in my neck of the woods that would like to take a little drive out to Troy.
Joe
It is going to be cool - we're going to have a little master class before hand, a bit of a break, and then the show. I can't tell you who the 4th player is yet, but here is a hint: The 4th player, we are hoping to get, is really an amazing player, as was his father. The father played in a band led by a sax player. That sax player previously played in a band led by a trumpet player. The keyboard player who played in the trumpet player's band now leads a band that our 4th player, if he can make it, plays with. Get it?
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Joe Q.
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 19:42:35
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It is going to be cool - we're going to have a little master class before hand, a bit of a break, and then the show. I can't tell you who the 4th player is yet, but here is a hint: The 4th player, we are hoping to get, is really an amazing player, as was his father. The father played in a band led by a sax player. That sax player previously played in a band led by a trumpet player. The keyboard player who played in the trumpet player's band now leads a band that our 4th player, if he can make it, plays with. Get it?
Mike
Are his initials M.G.? Is there an exact date for the event?
Joe
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michaeldimin
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Posted - 04/05/2006 : 20:02:39
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| Wed, June 21st. Good job on the puzzle |
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